Ep 233 Hold the Generals Accountable This Time feat Ray McGovern

Guest: Ray McGovern. Hosts: Joanne Leon and Kelley Lane. We talk about Ray’s recent article calling for military generals to be held accountable this time, for this 20-year March of Folly called the War in Afghanistan. If they are not held accountable, there will be still worse to come. In a bonus episode, we talk about Biden’s battle with the media, the intelligence complex and the whole “MICIMATT” (an acronym that Ray has coined for the Military-Industrial-Congressional-Intelligence-Media-Academia-Think-Tank complex, the same complex that worked so hard to put him in the White House. Ray McGovern is a retired CIA analyst who served as Chief of the Soviet Foreign Policy Branch and preparer/briefer of the President’s Daily Brief. Prior to that he served as an infantry/intelligence officer in the 1960’s. He is co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), an activist, a prolific writer and a frequent guest on various media outlets. FOLLOW Ray on Twitter @raymcgovern, find his website at https://raymcgovern.comRecorded on August 23, 2021. Music by Fluorescent Grey.Reference Links:1. Hold the Generals Accountable This Time, Ray McGovern https://original.antiwar.com/mcgovern/2021/08/13/hold-the-generals-accountable-this-time/2. Welcome to Vietnam, Mr. President, Ray McGovern https://consortiumnews.com/2018/04/07/welcome-to-vietnam-mr-president-3/3. $10,000 Invested in Defense Stocks When Afghanistan War Began Now Worth Almost $100,000, Jon Schwarz https://theintercept.com/2021/08/16/afghanistan-war-defense-stocks/4. Book: The March of Folly: From Troy to Vietnam, Barbara W. Tuchman https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/180852/the-march-of-folly-by-barbara-w-tuchman/Around the Empire podcast is listener supported independent media. Rokfin: https://rokfin.com/aroundtheempire Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/aroundtheempire or Paypal: https://paypal.me/aroundtheempirepod. SUBSCRIBE on Rokfin, Youtube, iTunes, Spotify, Google or your favorite podcast app.Website: http://aroundtheempire.com FOLLOW @aroundtheempire https://twitter.com/aroundtheempire. FOLLOW Joanne Leon at @joanneleon https://twitter.com/joanneleon. Join us on TELEGRAM https://t.me/AroundtheEmpireFind everything on http://aroundtheempire.com and linktr.ee/aroundtheempireFair Use Act Disclaimer. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing