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dutch
Sounds good on paper but is this for real? and who are the other 22 sitting on the panel with me??


dutch
And I thought Marbury vs Madison had to do with laws that are repugnant to the constitution being null and void. Like ALL gun control laws...

MichaelTwoWolves
dutch That case covers multiple issues and sets several precedents.


dutch
MichaelTwoWolves, I'll have to revisit that one. Last time I just verified what I posted above never looking into it in depth. Interresting to say the least

MichaelTwoWolves
dutch Unfortunately, the law is designed to be as Machiavellian as possible. When I was looking into the whole Commercial Redemption mess, it was all smoke and mirrors. The deeper into it I looked, the more obfuscation there was. And Abuse of Process is a very real crime, as is Practicing Law Withou... View More


JonyComeLately
Ok let's do this.

MichaelTwoWolves
They have to be randomly chosen per long-standing rules of Federal Procedure. You can't just round up 23 like-minded people. The forms must be maintained in the way it is done, but if you properly empanel a grand jury, and find that they are all in agreement, you go to the Courts to compel service t... View More


dutch
MichaelTwoWolves, bookmarked that link I did. are you a lawyer? and why has nobody suggested this yet??

MichaelTwoWolves
dutch Haha, not I! No, but I probably should have been. I just hated the paperwork. Citizen Grand Juries have been done before, but the courts refuse to adhere to the juries' orders. This is why a Writ of Mandamus must be filed to compel legal service and force them to do what they're bound by oath ... View More


dutch
Ok, I'm with Jony, Let's do this

MichaelTwoWolves



dutch
I have been saying for awhile now that we can't have Military tribunals because the top Military commanders are in on the plot to destroy our country, Can we do civilian Tribunals?

MichaelTwoWolves
It's We the People, not We the Government. All it takes is a spark, someone who says enough and decides, fuck it, I got nothing to lose.

neanderthal63ne
neanderthal63
MichaelTwoWolvesAlready there🇺🇸ðŸº

JonyComeLately
So I've looked at Marbury v. Madison and it does appear the courts are technically required to recognize a citizen grand jury indictment. I am so ready to do this, Mr. Wolves, but we've slid a long way down the slippery slope into totalitarianism. To say that we are an occupied nation, in fact, is n... View More

MichaelTwoWolves
JonyComeLately Writ of Mandamus. It's an extraordinary writ that forces the court to compel someone to legal action (like when the FOIA office refuses to turn over documents, you file this motion). The thing is, you have to stick to it, and keep making noise with such filings under pro se laws. The ... View More


JonyComeLately
Yes I understand writ of mandamus and I'd be willing to lead the charge pro se, however my point, Mr. Wolves, is that we must find a way to enforce the findings and decisions of our court physically. The criminals will not walk into their cells, or into our court for that matter, because we tell the... View More


JonyComeLately
Perhaps an organized civilian militia to guard and defend the proceedings themselves, but then an army of professional bounty hunters commissioned to make the arrests.


dutch
JonyComeLately, that is what I was thinking, a civilian grand jury can appoint sherriffs and deputies so that is the route to go, Militia and local police we know are on the side of the constitution to protect the proceding

MichaelTwoWolves
Yes, exactly. First, make all reasonable attempts to enforce the findings of the CGJ. If the local sheriff (not police) will not enforce it, the CGJ can then issue a decree of nullification and fire that sheriff; any actions said sheriff takes beyond that will then be only under the color of law and... View More


Rick
MichaelTwoWolves First, I want to thank you for taking time to provide us (educate us) with far more information than we previously had. For the first time since this fiasco began it feels as if there is a direction forming. A bearing we can navigate. So thank you.
Secondly, some member of RO made a... View More

MichaelTwoWolves
Rick Don't feel alone--the reason it goes county by county is because We the People are the foundation of the rest. If We decide something, there is no one to question our business.
Good places to start would be to look at the FRCP and State Rules of Civil Procedure, as well as the Rules For Crimi... View More


Rick
MichaelTwoWolves No, I understand. I wasn't referring to me being alone. I was trying to point out to others that they need to proceed on their own, since we all don't live near each other. It would be nice for a group of us to gather at some location and discuss our options, but that isn't the case... View More

MichaelTwoWolves
Rick Gotcha. You may need weapons of both stripes against the feds because this time, it ain't going down like Ruby Ridge. And hey, no worries about the info--I'll provide what I know (which is rather limited), so long as everyone knows I'm not an attorney, and I'm not advising anyone to do anything... View More



Rick
MichaelTwoWolves Haha, don't you know it. I think most of us on here are fairly well armed, at least for the type of fight our limited firearms will permit. Anyone got a spare drone?


Patriot Darrell Gill
JonyComeLately Very very good ðŸ‘Good to know a person like MichaelTwoWolves .

MichaelTwoWolves
lol Thanks, guys. Good to know I'm not the only one finding this info and seeing it for what it is. The one thing to do with that Marbury v Madison would be to shephardize it, and man, that case is so old you'd be combing through case law for weeks, just to make sure it hasn't been reduced or altere... View More


Rick



MichaelTwoWolves
Rick 😂 Yeah, that shit is labor-intensive, but on the plus side, you usually find ancillary goodies you can use along the way.


Rick
#deplatform Marking this for later.


WaldoJPeabody
Rick you had better check your hashtag search, it may only pick up hashtags in the post header


Rick
WaldoJPeabody Yeah I noticed that when I first posted it. That seems like a worthless feature if it only works in a post and not a comment.


WaldoJPeabody
Rick ya have to share the header to your wall and put the hashtag in your share comment. That get's picked up. The only problem is that you lose all the other commentary


WaldoJPeabody
Rick I guess the option would be to copy what you are interested in and paste it to a stolen wall. I do have some for sale.


Rick
WaldoJPeabody Exactly, I don't want to share a post, I want to mark a post for future reference. The pound sign code needs some work.
MichaelTwoWolves
Rick Best to just save it to your phone or computer. Besides, I encourage the theft of memes. lol


WaldoJPeabody
Rick Octothorp if we wanna go there but storing what one wants to review later in the cave of a dead troll works pretty good too. Did I mention I has some for sale? 



Rick
MichaelTwoWolves Nah, I was intending to mark this post to return to after I ran some errands. But I saw that the javascript doesn't recognize the pound sign in a comment. So plan B was the notifications .


Rick
WaldoJPeabody I ain't skeer'd


WaldoJPeabody
Rick

MichaelTwoWolves
https://www.freedomwatchusa.org/freedom-watchs-citizens-grand-jury-has-indicted-biden-for-m
Freedom Watch
www.freedomwatchusa.org


Rick
MichaelTwoWolves If the military can't/won't do it's job, then the citizens grand jury can instruct their deputies to carry out the arrest.


JonyComeLately
Wondering if we couldn't convene a citizens FEDERAL grand jury and bypass slugging it out county by county.


dutch
JonyComeLately, back to reading, but it sounds like a great idea.

JonyComeLately
Looks like Mr. Wolves has informed us (above) that Freedom Watch is on it!?


JonyComeLately
They've been streaming their proceedings live on their YouTube channel. Subscribe here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-UstQ5tu5M&t=557s
Citizens' Grand Jury Prosecutor Larry Klayman Presents A True Bill of Indictment Against Joe Biden
www.youtube.com


dutch
JonyComeLately, yeah that will be the test case to determin how corupt things really are..

dutch
JonyComeLately, thanks for the link I did not know about it

JonyComeLately
This is totally ligit. The Citezen's Grand Jury Prosecutor here is Larry Klayman. He recently founded Freedom Watch for the purpose of convening citizen grand juries, AND he is also the founder of Judicial Watch (with Tom Fitton). Check out the recent proceedings and all their live streaming of the ... View More
Ambassador Alan L. Keyes – A True American Hero
www.youtube.com


badvlad01
Vicarious spit balling.................
MichaelTwoWolves
badvlad01 Nah, I did time with Stockheimer, so I learned from the best...until I found out what they were really on. That lead to wasted years about Commercial Redemption through UCC remittance, and that was all smoke and mirrors as well. However, the Citizens Grand Jury is actually recognized by th... View More

MichaelTwoWolves
I see no reason why a Federal Citizen's Grand Jury cannot be commenced just the same as a state one, so long as the rules for their convening are followed the same for random sampling of the population.


JonyComeLately
By the way, speaking of Marbury v. Madison...



dutch
JonyComeLately, all gun control laws infrings on the 2nd amendment. think about it...