iantheplater
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MartyKinn
I ask God why he allows me to be tormented to the point of insanity and nothing, no reply at all...just like there's nobody there. I've concluded he doesn't actually exist and to overcome going insane from the religion-related torments is for me to unlearn all the brainwashing the church did to me o... View More
  • September 24, 2021 Edited
    iantheplater
    we all follow the teachings of the Bible....whoever we believe wrote them is right
  • September 24, 2021
    MartyKinn
    The teaching of the church, though, is what is concerning. It is actually possible to brainwash you to where your own mind becomes your enemy...or becomes a jailer. The church and bible teaches that we are all worthless and deserve only punishment in Hell. There are some people who will go overboard... View More
  • September 24, 2021
    MartyKinn
    To a lot of people it's a crutch or a drug. If God isn't real, that is a sad reality.
  • September 24, 2021
    WaldoJPeabody
    Gentle Friend Been there. Shed all that those who would twist the truth to control you have taught you. Go back to first principles. Why did the Great I Am create man? Maybe the same reason that so many flock to social media. He wanted someone to talk with, walking thru the Garden in th... View More
  • September 24, 2021 Edited
    WaldoJPeabody
    Most everything else you have been taught is History, Prophecy or Commentary with a whole lot of the Doctrines and Traditions of Man thrown in to boot.
  • September 24, 2021
    MartyKinn
    The problem with that is, I would have to rely on my own interpretation of what the entire bible says. I've read the bible through a few times, but I am no theologian. And science has proven the 6-day creation isn't real. So if you take some of the bible as real and the rest not real, y... View More
  • September 24, 2021
    WaldoJPeabody
    I don't remember where it's at exactly but there is the passage that the Wisdom of God is foolishness to man and the wisdom of man is foolish to God. Would Tod, during the creation event, paint the canvas anyway he wanted too? Than, there is no conflict. This is an argument for men. The... View More
  • September 24, 2021
    MartyKinn
    You're probably right, I don't want my lack of faith to destroy your faith. I just know I don't want to go insane. And relying on a being that isn't actually there is making me insane. I'm expecting my pleas and supplications to be answered and not ignored. Yet all I get is being ignore... View More
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    WaldoJPeabody
    Gentle Friend do not worry about my faith, I am under constant attack from the same things that torment you so, I fall back into my Father's arms. Do you think I would have the strength to do what I do on my own? As for everything else, consider this, You have lifted up a plea for help. Y... View More
  • September 24, 2021
    MartyKinn
    Yeah, I don't think I can buy into that. If God is real and THAT was his purpose...to allow me to be driven to the point of insanity; to the horrendous misery of breaking like I did, I can't cope with future instances...with him putting me through that horrible mental and emotional mise... View More
  • September 24, 2021
    WaldoJPeabody
    Gentle Friend and you don't know the fire that I have been through. I had'nt beaten you over the head with a bible, nor will is do so, I'm just saying I'm here.
  • September 24, 2021
    MartyKinn
    I just can't see God manipulating a person that way. Who can cope with expecting shit like that happening? I just can't see God doing that to people. Just sitting up there watching people be mercilessly tormented and doing nothing to comfort them. In my case, if God exists, he offered no comfort at ... View More
  • September 24, 2021
    MartyKinn
    I apologize, for some reason that picture is really small. Maybe you can zoom in on it
  • September 24, 2021
    WaldoJPeabody
    I'm on a lap to, if I open it up and lean in real close, take my glasses off, no problem. lol The one thing I know for sure is that while we may be tested, we will not be tested beyond our ability to endure. I've also seen instances which have led me to believe that our Father has a sense... View More
  • September 24, 2021
    WaldoJPeabody
    Can I tell you a story?
  • September 24, 2021
    MartyKinn
    Unfortunately, Waldo, that isn't correct. God is referring to temptation, not suffering. God promises...in the bible...that he will not let us be tempted beyond our ability to endure. I'll include the bible verse below. When we die, we are enduring something beyond our ability. When the... View More
  • September 24, 2021
    MartyKinn
    No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted[d] beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it. 1 Corinthians 10:13
  • September 24, 2021
    MartyKinn
    You absolutely may tell me a story
  • September 24, 2021
    MartyKinn
  • September 24, 2021
    WaldoJPeabody
    Ok, one bit of back story, I run a 2 week meal plan like my mother taught me, makes grocerie shopping easier, always the same list. Ok, You've been on the board for a while, You know that I suffer from an affliction. Anyhow, shortly after diagnosis, I was talking to my daughter and she w... View More
  • September 24, 2021
    MartyKinn
    You have a really good taste. Making me hungry. Now I gotta go to a Mexican restaurant tomorrow and order Chili Relenos...Hahaha
  • September 24, 2021
    VaTrumpFan1964
    Just feel him in your heart, the kindness you show to others and talk to him, he may not answer, because maybe it is not time to do so
  • September 24, 2021
    WaldoJPeabody
    Gentle Friends, this has been a good discussion, the right discussion I think. One thing that helps me, When I fall to mental navel gazing, I just let my mind turn to song. Making a joyful noise isn't always about making noise. One of my favorites. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9cxJy0P7Vw
  • September 25, 2021
    MartyKinn
    Good night, Waldo. I hope all things work together for good for you. Thanks for the talk.
  • September 25, 2021
    WaldoJPeabody
    Thank you also Gentle Friend, We'll see this through. Have a good night.
  • September 25, 2021